【译】关于Roger Waters的报道
我懒得看原视频,就翻译一份报道吧。原文地址:https://www.spin.com/2022/08/roger-waters-russian-china-ukraine-joe-biden-cnn-interview/
Roger Waters has never been shy about his political stances, and his This Is Not a Drill tour begins with a blunt message on the big screens: “If you’re one of those ‘I love Pink Floyd, but I can’t stand Roger’s politics’ people, you might do well to fuck off to the bar.
Roger Waters从不隐藏自己的政治观点。他的“This Is Not a Drill”巡回演出以一条大屏幕上的标语作为开始:“如果你是那些宣称‘我喜欢Pink Floyd,但我讨厌Roger的政治观点’的一员的话,滚到酒吧去吧。”
The former Pink Floyd member recently sat down with CNN’s Michael Smerconish (who notably loves Waters’ music but disagrees with some of his political views) to defend some of the extreme messages during his show, such as including president Joe Biden in a slideshow of “war criminals.”
这位Pink Floyd的前成员在与CNN的Michael Smerconish(一位不赞同他政治观点的歌迷)的访谈中为他演出中的极端观点作出辩护,例如他将Joe Biden总统放入一部名为《战争罪犯》的幻灯片中。
(维基百科显示Roger Waters早在1985年就离开了Pink Floyd,不知道为什么会在现在的各种报道中扯在一起——第三新索多玛注)
“Well, he’s fuelling the fire in the Ukraine, for a start – that is a huge crime,” he answered when asked why he added Biden in the lineup. “Why won’t the United States of America encourage [Volodymyr] Zelenskyy, the [Ukrainian] president, to negotiate, obviating the need for this horrific, horrendous war that’s killing… We don’t know how many Russians.”
“他在乌克兰煽风点火,挑起了战争,这是一桩重大罪行。”当被问到他为什么将拜登加入幻灯片的时候,他说,“为什么美国不去鼓励泽连斯基总统去谈判,去回避那些导致了这场可怕的,不知道杀死了多少俄罗斯人的战争的起因呢?”
Smerconish told Waters he’s “got it reversed” by “blaming the party that got invaded” but Waters defended his stance: “Well, any war, when did it start? What you need to do is look at the history, and you can say, ‘Well it started on this day.’ You could say it started in 2008 – this war is basically about the action and reaction of NATO pushing right up to the Russian border, which they promised they wouldn’t do when [Mikhail] Gorbachev negotiated the withdrawal of the USSR from the whole of Eastern Europe.”
Smerconish告诉Waters“他搞反了”因为他在“谴责遭到侵略的一方”。但是Waters继续辩护说“每一场战争总有它的起始时间。你需要回头看看历史,然后你会发现‘原来战争是从这里开始的’。我们可以说这场战争开始于2008年,北约东扩到了俄罗斯的边境,这违背了他们在和戈尔巴乔夫从东欧撤军时许下的承诺。”
He also dismissed Smerconish’s comment that Americans are “liberators.” “You got into World War 2 because of Pearl Harbor. You were completely isolationists [beforehand],” Waters argued. “Thank gGd the Russians had already won the bloody war by then. Twenty-three million Russians died, protecting you and me from the Nazi menace.”
他还反驳了Smerconish将美国人称为“解放者”的说法。“你们因为珍珠港事件加入了二战,(在那之前)你们根本就是一群孤立主义者。”Waters争执道,“感谢上帝俄罗斯人赢下了这场血腥的战争,两千三百万俄罗斯人为了这场保护你我不受纳粹威胁的战争而死。”
“I would suggest that you… go away and read a bit more, and try to figure out what the US would do if the Chinese were putting nuclear armed missiles into Mexico and Canada,” he added.
“我建议你回家多读点书,想想如果中国将核设施建立在墨西哥和加拿大的话,美国会怎么做。”他补充道。
When Smerconish then noted that the Chinese are “too busy encircling Taiwan as we speak,” Waters snapped back with this proclamation: “Taiwan is part of China. That has been absolutely accepted by the whole of international community since 1948. If you don’t know that you aren’t reading enough. You are believing your side’s propaganda. You can’t have a conversation about human rights and Taiwan without actually doing the reading.”
当Smerconish提出中国“正忙着包围台湾”的时候,Waters打断并说“台湾是中国的一部分,这是全世界早在1948年就有的共识。如果你不知道的话那是你读的书不够多,你相信了你那边的宣传,如果你不读一些说的话你就无法讨论台湾的人权。”
“The Chinese didn’t invade Iraq and kill a million people in 2013,” Waters added. “Who have the Chinese invaded and slaughtered?”
“中国并没有在2013(似应为2003,我没有核对视频——第三新索多玛注)年侵略伊拉克并杀害数以百万计的人口,”Waters补充道:“中国侵略了谁,又屠杀了谁?”
“Their own,” Smerconish answered. “Bullocks! That’s absolute nonsense! Absolute nonsense!” Waters responded.
“他们自己。”Smerconish回答道。“胡扯!这纯粹是胡说八道!胡说八道!”Waters回应说。
Roger Waters has never been shy about his political stances, and his This Is Not a Drill tour begins with a blunt message on the big screens: “If you’re one of those ‘I love Pink Floyd, but I can’t stand Roger’s politics’ people, you might do well to fuck off to the bar.
Roger Waters从不隐藏自己的政治观点。他的“This Is Not a Drill”巡回演出以一条大屏幕上的标语作为开始:“如果你是那些宣称‘我喜欢Pink Floyd,但我讨厌Roger的政治观点’的一员的话,滚到酒吧去吧。”
The former Pink Floyd member recently sat down with CNN’s Michael Smerconish (who notably loves Waters’ music but disagrees with some of his political views) to defend some of the extreme messages during his show, such as including president Joe Biden in a slideshow of “war criminals.”
这位Pink Floyd的前成员在与CNN的Michael Smerconish(一位不赞同他政治观点的歌迷)的访谈中为他演出中的极端观点作出辩护,例如他将Joe Biden总统放入一部名为《战争罪犯》的幻灯片中。
(维基百科显示Roger Waters早在1985年就离开了Pink Floyd,不知道为什么会在现在的各种报道中扯在一起——第三新索多玛注)
“Well, he’s fuelling the fire in the Ukraine, for a start – that is a huge crime,” he answered when asked why he added Biden in the lineup. “Why won’t the United States of America encourage [Volodymyr] Zelenskyy, the [Ukrainian] president, to negotiate, obviating the need for this horrific, horrendous war that’s killing… We don’t know how many Russians.”
“他在乌克兰煽风点火,挑起了战争,这是一桩重大罪行。”当被问到他为什么将拜登加入幻灯片的时候,他说,“为什么美国不去鼓励泽连斯基总统去谈判,去回避那些导致了这场可怕的,不知道杀死了多少俄罗斯人的战争的起因呢?”
Smerconish told Waters he’s “got it reversed” by “blaming the party that got invaded” but Waters defended his stance: “Well, any war, when did it start? What you need to do is look at the history, and you can say, ‘Well it started on this day.’ You could say it started in 2008 – this war is basically about the action and reaction of NATO pushing right up to the Russian border, which they promised they wouldn’t do when [Mikhail] Gorbachev negotiated the withdrawal of the USSR from the whole of Eastern Europe.”
Smerconish告诉Waters“他搞反了”因为他在“谴责遭到侵略的一方”。但是Waters继续辩护说“每一场战争总有它的起始时间。你需要回头看看历史,然后你会发现‘原来战争是从这里开始的’。我们可以说这场战争开始于2008年,北约东扩到了俄罗斯的边境,这违背了他们在和戈尔巴乔夫从东欧撤军时许下的承诺。”
He also dismissed Smerconish’s comment that Americans are “liberators.” “You got into World War 2 because of Pearl Harbor. You were completely isolationists [beforehand],” Waters argued. “Thank gGd the Russians had already won the bloody war by then. Twenty-three million Russians died, protecting you and me from the Nazi menace.”
他还反驳了Smerconish将美国人称为“解放者”的说法。“你们因为珍珠港事件加入了二战,(在那之前)你们根本就是一群孤立主义者。”Waters争执道,“感谢上帝俄罗斯人赢下了这场血腥的战争,两千三百万俄罗斯人为了这场保护你我不受纳粹威胁的战争而死。”
“I would suggest that you… go away and read a bit more, and try to figure out what the US would do if the Chinese were putting nuclear armed missiles into Mexico and Canada,” he added.
“我建议你回家多读点书,想想如果中国将核设施建立在墨西哥和加拿大的话,美国会怎么做。”他补充道。
When Smerconish then noted that the Chinese are “too busy encircling Taiwan as we speak,” Waters snapped back with this proclamation: “Taiwan is part of China. That has been absolutely accepted by the whole of international community since 1948. If you don’t know that you aren’t reading enough. You are believing your side’s propaganda. You can’t have a conversation about human rights and Taiwan without actually doing the reading.”
当Smerconish提出中国“正忙着包围台湾”的时候,Waters打断并说“台湾是中国的一部分,这是全世界早在1948年就有的共识。如果你不知道的话那是你读的书不够多,你相信了你那边的宣传,如果你不读一些说的话你就无法讨论台湾的人权。”
“The Chinese didn’t invade Iraq and kill a million people in 2013,” Waters added. “Who have the Chinese invaded and slaughtered?”
“中国并没有在2013(似应为2003,我没有核对视频——第三新索多玛注)年侵略伊拉克并杀害数以百万计的人口,”Waters补充道:“中国侵略了谁,又屠杀了谁?”
“Their own,” Smerconish answered. “Bullocks! That’s absolute nonsense! Absolute nonsense!” Waters responded.
“他们自己。”Smerconish回答道。“胡扯!这纯粹是胡说八道!胡说八道!”Waters回应说。