各位电报用户:马克龙尼亚抓了你们的电报CEO兼创始人

法国官媒消息:一下飞机就抓了,星期六抓,星期天进法庭

以下仅部分引用,再加点儿「看戏观众角度的欣赏点评」,不感兴趣的自己点前一段链接去看原文。

The Franco-Russian billionaire, 39, was detained at Le Bourget airport north of the French capital on Saturday evening, one of the sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.


据「线人」说,杜洛夫(39岁, billionaire)周六晚间抵达巴黎勒不假机场,被抓。星期天出庭。前面儿已说了。

France's OFMIN, an office tasked with preventing violence against minors, had issued an arrest warrant for Durov in a preliminary investigation into alleged offences including fraud, drug trafficking, cyberbullying, organised crime and promotion of terrorism, one of the sources said.

Durov is accused of failing to take action to curb the criminal use of his platform.

"Enough of Telegram's impunity," said one of the investigators, adding they were surprised Durov came to Paris knowing he was a wanted man.


抓的理由,总结起来三个字:不作为。(什么由头之类,「司法与执法胜利」的欢呼之类,完全没兴趣翻译)

The encrypted messaging app, based in Dubai, has positioned itself as an alternative to US-owned platforms, which have been criticised for their commercial exploitation of users' personal data.

Telegram has committed to never disclosing any information about its users.


对上述互相矛盾,差一点儿就要当场决斗的两段,我只能说:横看成岭侧成峰,远近高低各不同。(其实「左右贵贱」更合适)

倒是各位电报用户,请自行掂量一下自己的「安全」。

咱还是那句话:安全从来不是技术问题,也永远不会是技术问题。对此信与不信,理解与不理解,讨厌与不讨厌,没区别的。甚至可以说下场基本上一样。

In a rare interview given to right-wing talk show host Tucker Carlson in April, Durov said he got the idea to launch an encrypted messaging app after coming under pressure from the Russian government when working at VK, a social network he created before selling it and leaving Russia in 2014.

He said he then tried to settle in Berlin, London, Singapore and San Francisco before choosing Dubai, which he praised for its business environment and "neutrality".

People "love the independence. They also love the privacy, the freedom, (there are) a lot of reasons why somebody would switch to Telegram," Durov told Carlson.


马克龙尼亚:Carlson 自己泥菩萨过江,他救不了你,小子。

历史爱好者:所谓「中立」,从来都是「霸主」的逻辑等价词。你要隐居在蛮荒之地拜什么「非主流神」,那是你的事。但信了教人天真的文宣,那就付出天真的小屁股吧。

对现实补充一点儿说明:这个地球从来不靠「爱」发电,也永远不会靠「爱」发电。

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想评的已经评完了,再来点儿现实中的历史教训:凡是真正对「安全」,或者更广义一点儿说,对某些东西的价值在意到认为自己可以,且应该要付出人生去努力的。

先学学战争

学真的,别学各种书本上那些假的。

打算赌上人生去认真的,可以从约翰·亚当斯那一句开始:「I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain.」
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接力海鸥 新注册用户 (待解除)
我比较好奇,法国都是要抓杜洛夫的,那电报在法国可以正常使用吗?印象里好几年以前看过一期60min,内容是采访杜洛夫,里面就提到当时查理周刊编辑部枪击案的凶手就是用tg沟通的,之后法国政府就有要求TG提供用户信息,但是杜拒绝。
倒是想问你们为什么觉得电报一款中心化聊天软件能是安全的
>>倒是想问你们为什么觉得电报一款中心化聊天软件能是安全的


因为「人家厉害的」说了,就是安全就是安全就是安全就是安全就是安全就是安全就是安全就是安全就是安全就是安全……(文化大革命就是好就是好就是好就是好就是好就是好就是好……)
我猜肯定有一群费拉又要开始说,西方有多么虚伪,天下乌鸦一般黑,哪里都一样,之类的论调了。
杜洛夫是俄羅斯人出生,父親也是俄羅斯人。那些叫囂屠殺俄羅斯的可以閉嘴了
压死骆驼的最后一根稻草,有墨西哥之行,有阿塞拜疆之行,总之是在祖国需要的地方。一小撮农奴主享受这样的特权:一边卖国,一边爱国。广大农奴履行这样的义务:一边饭圈,一边当牛做马。如果两面人不贼喊捉贼双标就不是两面人。孟晚舟公主、杜洛夫爵爷是一类人,另一类是会说话的牲口,本质没有差异。
法国这是什么节奏。中俄法三大轴心国吗?
Olivert 回复 接力海鸥 新注册用户 (待解除)
苹果照样拒绝了FBI要求解锁枪击案嫌疑犯苹果手机的命令,库克也没被抓。
>>我比较好奇,法国都是要抓杜洛夫的,那电报在法国可以正常使用吗?印象里好几年以前看过一期60min,内...
>>苹果照样拒绝了FBI要求解锁枪击案嫌疑犯苹果手机的命令,库克也没被抓。


苹果并没有拒绝解锁嫌犯苹果手机
苹果拒绝的是向FBI提供解锁工具,FBI拿手机给苹果,苹果可以解锁了交给FBI,但是苹果不能交开锁器
詐騙集團庇護者、
兒童色情庇護者、
恐怖攻擊庇護者、
抓的好!
FBI要求苹果解锁嫌犯手机,苹果没有能力解锁IOS7以上的系统,必须重写软件,这些软件能让未来政府获取用户信息变得更加容易。

In 2015 and 2016, Apple Inc. received and objected to or challenged at least 11 orders issued by United States district courts under the All Writs Act of 1789. Most of these seek to compel Apple "to use its existing capabilities to extract data like contacts, photos and calls from locked iPhones running on operating systems iOS 7 and older" in order to assist in criminal investigations and prosecutions. A few requests, however, involve phones with more extensive security protections, which Apple has no current ability to break. These orders would compel Apple to write new software that would let the government bypass these devices' security and unlock the phones.

>>苹果并没有拒绝解锁嫌犯苹果手机苹果拒绝的是向FBI提供解锁工具,FBI拿手机给苹果,苹果可以解锁了交...
贱畜是为了搞言论管控的,tg上面信息流动不受监管。真的幸亏早前马斯克把twitter拿下来了。否则只要搞了tg那主要信息通道就都被左逼控制了。
鹅国表示抗议 可见他是什么底色
「自由與法制」只是中學生作文的基本題目,
至少在我們這裡是,

你有任意殺人的自由嗎?沒有!
你有任意強姦的自由嗎?沒有!
你有掠奪他人財務的自由嗎?沒有!

「言論自由」也是如此,
打著言論自由的名義進行犯罪活動,
而不受限制的自由,也沒有!

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