德国大饼之5000亿规划要将其中1000亿用于气候事业

GERMANY EARMARKS €100B OF €500B INFRASTRUCTURE FUND FOR CLIMATE

这就是绿党同意上车的条件么 德国果然是个大笑话
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歐洲左到把自己玩死
分钱罢了,政客有几个是真傻逼,真的要深究,这样分也还是比中共把国家和国民和所有财富都当成自己的去明抢高级一点
汤师爷:“赚钱嘛,不寒掺。”
>> 分钱罢了,政客有几个是真傻逼,真的要深究,这样分也还是比中共把国家和国民和所有财富都当成自己的...


只是分钱还算好的 就怕未来武器军备标准和排放都要和绿色环保挂钩的 大概率我说的可笑是会成真的 不要小看德国人的搞笑功力
https://i.imgur.com/0vwvEi9.jpeg
>>


德国自己做不了电池啊 未来军用电池都跟中国韩国进口?或者让Tesla 柏林工厂代劳算了
哦 忘了德国自己都缺电 都跟法国进口电了 俄罗斯天然气掐断自家的核电站全部关停之后电从哪来也是个大问题
不知道德國選民比裡怎想
绿友还是要继续更加努力的拷打左逼
拯救气候的最好方法就是去死。建议全世界左派气候狂魔集体自杀,不要再给地球增加负担,地球一下少了这么多人口,能多活个几千年,实在是宇宙之福
>> 拯救气候的最好方法就是去死。建议全世界左派气候狂魔集体自杀,不要再给地球增加负担,地球一下少了...

卡辛斯基你在哪里,,,
>> 德国自己做不了电池啊 未来军用电池都跟中国韩国进口?或者让Tesla 柏林工厂代劳算了 哦 忘...

美国也要跟加拿大进口电,美国也要死了吗。
帖子内容能否更详细一些?
只要我们继续关注气候变化,就一定能够打败俄国侵略者的 !!!
>> 美国也要跟加拿大进口电,美国也要死了吗。


你们加拿大电产能过剩 美国有足够大的电网容纳过剩的电量 你知道你们加拿大出口过剩电能的价格是多少么 2分钱一度电 只占美国电网总容量的1% 谢谢美国人给你们分担过剩电能吧 否则你们的核电站都会有问题了 觉得没了加拿大的过剩电能纽交所都要关门的还是去做梦吧
不修核电谈气候变化的都是耍流氓

但是早就有人指出了为啥环保派反核,因为环保派不仅是环保,他们还是反资本主义的
核电建设运营成本很高,只有大企业才可能运行,所以环保派讨厌
风车和太阳能板是个体户都装得起的玩意,他们才支持
>> 你们加拿大电产能过剩 美国有足够大的电网容纳过剩的电量 你知道你们加拿大出口过剩电能的价格是多...

没有世界其他国家,美国人都要饿死。
>> 没有世界其他国家,美国人都要饿死。


梦里什么都有
>> 卡辛斯基你在哪里,,,


One of the funniest things of speaking several languages is that you can figure out the immediate etymology of a translated term in whatever language you happen to know.
This one 卡辛斯基 for example, must be directly borrowed from American English, because only we make such weird pronunciations for people's names from various cultures. In Polish instead it's something similar to 卡沉斯基 and I think that's exactly how it should be pronounced. Another thing that embarrasses me a lot is how we usually pronounce the ending letter "e" with an "ey" sound in all words of Romance origin, like grande, résumé, anime(it's Japanese but it sounds Southern European), cliche etc, so that we can sound fancy by approximating to the original while keeping our own characteristics. But those are not even remotely appropriate😭, I'd say it's like me speaking Chinese, embedding Polish, English and my mother tongue's elements everywhere and thinking it's cool.
Man, I'm so weird😭.
>> One of the funniest things of speaking several ...


我在谈论大学炸弹客,他以极端的反科技的立场闻名
>> 我在谈论大学炸弹客,他以极端的反科技的立场闻名

yes I know, our teddy bear
马克思主义出产于德国看来不是没有理由的。这个脑回路。。。
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 维尼熊两百斤
>> 美国也要跟加拿大进口电,美国也要死了吗。


不是因为加拿大的电更绿吗 而且更便宜-大量水电?这很环保啊。
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 Nederland
>> One of the funniest things of speaking several ...


你母语是啥?
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 Vinobianco
>> 只是分钱还算好的 就怕未来武器军备标准和排放都要和绿色环保挂钩的 大概率我说的可笑是会成真的 ...


武器当然应该是绿色环保的。这还用说?不然大家多年在环保上的努力 一次因为战争抵消了,是有多蠢?

环境恶化,你就算打赢下领土 也没有意义了。
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 Vinobianco
>> 你们加拿大电产能过剩 美国有足够大的电网容纳过剩的电量 你知道你们加拿大出口过剩电能的价格是多...


加拿大过剩的电不是来自水电吗?怎是核电?不可能是核电,核电不可能这么便宜 完全亏本。
假行僧 回复 SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户
>> 武器当然应该是绿色环保的。这还用说?不然大家多年在环保上的努力 一次因为战争抵消了,是有多蠢?...


年度最佳笑话,我投你这帖子一票
>> 只是分钱还算好的 就怕未来武器军备标准和排放都要和绿色环保挂钩的 大概率我说的可笑是会成真的 ...


也可以反过来,拿对乌克兰军援计入ESG环保贡献啊
人家德国人加国防加环保,我没看出有什么好嘲讽的

德国人对乌克兰的援助是欧洲第一,仅次于美国。现在还要提振国防和增加援助乌克兰
Vinobianco 回复 SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户
>> 加拿大过剩的电不是来自水电吗?怎是核电?不可能是核电,核电不可能这么便宜 完全亏本。


西方不用水电很多年了 水电被认为是对环境非常不利
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RevUYkMMbPI&pp=ygUG6ICB6Juu

看一下老蛮最新分析德国这5000一的用途和规划 基本上没有军工什么事情 也很难用在非环保的产业上
支葱还是那样支 🤬不友善用户

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核平到底有没有道理?

https://pincong.rocks/article/item_id-504652
其实,核平一个前提就是姨学是路径依赖,说白了就是历史不是必然的。
大洪水是历史必然,但是诸夏是不是可以提升德性那就不一定了。

秦刘对谈,秦晖上来就抛出一个论点:你刘仲敬批评的大一统,也就是法家秦制帝国,恰恰就是为了结束诸夏而设计出来的。

因为战国春秋的确是中国德性的最高点,百家争鸣产生的思想之丰富,直到今天还影响着世界!
但是最后历史事实就是,天下归于秦,归于法家,直到今天。

那你的诸夏怎么能保证秦制不会卷土从来呢?

这个精准打击的确让阿姨没法接招,之后阿姨举了好多例子,但是都是在说,小国家就算专制,也容易被推翻等等。但是他都无法把这一点完美地论述出来。

这使得核平的前提直接就不存在了。

最后秦甚至有些讥讽地说,斯宾格勒等人,都不是进步主义者,民族有周期,那就意味着世界就不会进步。人类也不会进步。

这一点阿姨也没有正面回应,可见他也明白如果仅仅是保护自己,而不是推动进步的话,姨学很快就会沦为法家帝王之术的工具而已。

所以,我并不支持核平。
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 假行僧
>> 年度最佳笑话,我投你这帖子一票


天啊~感激涕零,我品葱第一票哎!😘爱你
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 假行僧
你个混蛋😠,我哪里说得不对?我没有在搞笑!
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 Vinobianco
>> 西方不用水电很多年了 水电被认为是对环境非常不利


你确定?不用水电难道不是因为没有自然的资源?
对环境可能不利的是人工造的大型大坝吧
假行僧 回复 SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户
>> 你个混蛋😠,我哪里说得不对?我没有在搞笑!


你觉得武器应该绿色环保,那大概就只能两边拿水枪互滋了
随便说一个,战机日常训练的碳排放你打算怎么消除?
>> 西方不用水电很多年了 水电被认为是对环境非常不利


魁北克占加拿大对美出口电力的1/3,而魁北克90%的发电量都来自水电。
>> 魁北克占加拿大对美出口电力的1/3,而魁北克90%的发电量都来自水电。


叫嚣要对美国出口电力加征关税的是安大略省省长 他的行政权力也仅限于安大略省出口美国的电力
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户
不必消除。战后结账就是,
战争挑起者 付给 另一方 战争中造成的所有污染环境的费(因为战争释放的碳排放费,因为战争造成的海洋/土地污染费 等)。
假行僧 回复 SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户
>> 不必消除。战后结账就是,战争挑起者 付给 另一方 战争中造成的所有污染环境的费(因为战争释放的...


跟碳税一样掩耳盗铃,该排放的照样排放,并没有让武器变得绿色环保
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 假行僧
>> 你觉得武器应该绿色环保,那大概就只能两边拿水枪互滋了随便说一个,战机日常训练的碳排放你打算怎么...


上述达成国际共识。
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 假行僧
>> 你觉得武器应该绿色环保,那大概就只能两边拿水枪互滋了随便说一个,战机日常训练的碳排放你打算怎么...



不必消除。战后结账就是,
战争挑起者 付给 另一方 战争中造成的所有污染环境的费(因为战争释放的碳排放费,因为战争造成的海洋/土地污染费 等)。
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 假行僧
>> 跟碳税一样掩耳盗铃,该排放的照样排放,并没有让武器变得绿色环保


当然比碳税重多了,碳税是算在正当生产生活上的,战争是吗?起码得重一万倍吧。

呵呵呵,你没有看懂。。。这个规则其中的逻辑。
>> 魁北克占加拿大对美出口电力的1/3,而魁北克90%的发电量都来自水电。


In summary, the U.S. imported around 33 TWh of electricity from Canada in 2023, predominantly from Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, and B.C., with hydropower as the overwhelming resource. These figures may adjust slightly for 2024 as full-year data becomes available, but the provincial and resource patterns are consistent with Canada’s hydro-centric energy profile.

你说的是对的 加拿大出口电力主要是水电 真是奇葩 说好的环保呢 装逼啊 美国已经几十年没修过水电站了
The United States imports a significant amount of electricity from Canada, though the exact figures can vary year to year based on demand, weather conditions, and market dynamics. As of the most recent comprehensive data for 2023, the U.S. imported approximately 33 terawatt-hours (TWh) of electricity from Canada, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA). This figure reflects a notable portion of the U.S.’s total electricity imports, with Canada accounting for roughly 90% of the annual electricity imported into the United States.

### Volume of Electricity Imported
- 2023 Data: The U.S. imported around 33 TWh (33,000 gigawatt-hours or 33 million megawatt-hours) from Canada. This is a decrease from historical peaks, such as 68 TWh in 2015, but still represents a substantial contribution to the U.S. grid, particularly in border regions.
- 2024 Estimate: Based on partial data up to mid-2024 from the EIA, the U.S. imported approximately 27.22 TWh by that point, suggesting a full-year total might be slightly lower than 2023, potentially around 30-32 TWh, depending on the remainder of the year’s trends.

### Provinces and Resources
Canada’s electricity exports to the U.S. primarily come from provinces with significant hydroelectric capacity, as hydropower dominates the country’s generation mix (about 60% of Canada’s total electricity production). Below is a breakdown of the key exporting provinces and the primary resources involved:

1. Quebec:
  - Contribution: Quebec is the largest exporter of electricity to the U.S., exporting 13.3 TWh in 2023 (down from 25.9 TWh in 2019 due to drought-related reductions in hydropower output).
  - Resource: Almost entirely hydroelectricity, generated by Hydro-Québec, a major provincial utility. Quebec produced 195.6 TWh domestically in 2023, with exports making up about 6% of its production.
  - Destination: Primarily serves the Northeast U.S., including New York and New England, where it supplied around 14% of New England’s electricity during a cold January period in recent years.

2. Ontario:
  - Contribution: Exported 13.5 TWh to the U.S. in 2023 (down from 17.0 TWh in 2019).
  - Resources: A mix of hydroelectricity (about 24% of Ontario’s generation), nuclear power (around 58%), and smaller contributions from natural gas, wind, and solar. Ontario generated 156.3 TWh in 2023, with exports accounting for 9% of its production.
  - Destination: Supplies Michigan, Minnesota, and New York via interconnections in the Eastern Interconnection grid.

3. British Columbia (B.C.):
  - Contribution: Historically a net exporter, B.C.’s exports dropped significantly in 2023 to about 6.6 TWh (a 45% decline from 2022), while it imported 16.8 TWh from the U.S. due to drought conditions affecting hydropower. In prior years, exports were higher (e.g., 11.2 TWh imported in 2019, with exports exceeding imports).
  - Resource: Predominantly hydroelectricity (over 85% of its generation), managed by BC Hydro. B.C. generated 56.1 TWh in 2023, making it a net importer that year by 10.2 TWh.
  - Destination: Traditionally exports to the U.S. Pacific Northwest (e.g., Washington via the Bonneville Power Administration), though imports dominated in 2023.

4. Manitoba:
  - Contribution: Exported 5.2 TWh to the U.S. in 2023 (down from 7.7 TWh in 2019).
  - Resource: Almost entirely hydroelectricity (97% of its generation), managed by Manitoba Hydro. The province produced 33.3 TWh in 2023, with exports comprising 16% of its output.
  - Destination: Supplies the Midwest U.S., including Minnesota, through ties with the Midcontinent Independent System Operator (MISO) and Southwest Power Pool (SPP).

5. New Brunswick:
  - Contribution: Exports smaller volumes, often bundled with broader Eastern Canada figures, but significant for its region. In 2019, it exported notable amounts (exact 2023 figures are less detailed but part of the 27.6 TWh net export total).
  - Resource: A mix of hydroelectricity, nuclear, and fossil fuels (natural gas and coal), though hydro dominates exports. The province also hosts Canada’s largest refinery (Irving Oil), which supports energy trade but not electricity directly.
  - Destination: Primarily serves New England states.

6. Other Provinces:
  - Newfoundland and Labrador: Exports smaller amounts, mostly hydro-based, often via Quebec’s grid (e.g., from the Churchill Falls project). Exact figures are less distinct but contribute to the total.
  - Alberta, Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia: These provinces export minimal electricity to the U.S., focusing more on domestic fossil fuel-based generation (coal and natural gas) or having limited cross-border infrastructure.

### Key Trends and Context
- Hydroelectric Dominance: Over 90% of Canada’s electricity exports to the U.S. are from hydropower, reflecting the country’s abundant water resources in provinces like Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, and B.C.
- Net Exports: In 2023, Canada’s net exports to the U.S. totaled 27.6 TWh (valued at $4.3 billion CAD), down from higher historical levels due to reduced hydro output from droughts in 2023 and 2024.
- Regional Impact: The Northeast (New York, New England) and Midwest (Michigan, Minnesota) are most dependent on Canadian imports, while the Pacific Northwest sees bidirectional flows with B.C.

In summary, the U.S. imported around 33 TWh of electricity from Canada in 2023, predominantly from Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, and B.C., with hydropower as the overwhelming resource. These figures may adjust slightly for 2024 as full-year data becomes available, but the provincial and resource patterns are consistent with Canada’s hydro-centric energy profile.

安大略省一半是核电 接近1/3水电 但是给出口电加关税的问题⬆️只有安大略省的省长在跳
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 假行僧
>> 跟碳税一样掩耳盗铃,该排放的照样排放,并没有让武器变得绿色环保


而且你真的确定碳税没用?我可是暖气都不开,洗澡都快快,水龙头装上省水装置 能用冷水就用冷水。
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 Vinobianco
>> In summary, the U.S. imported around 33 TWh of ...


傻逼的是你吧 看我的回复了吗?
假行僧 回复 SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户
>> 当然比碳税重多了,碳税是算在正当生产生活上的,战争是吗?起码得重一万倍吧。呵呵呵,你没有看懂。...


你没有人类社会运行的常识,不会是个AI吧
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 Vinobianco
呆在美国吧,你适合美国
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 假行僧
>> 你没有人类社会运行的常识,不会是个AI吧


如果战争挑起方需要付那么多环境费,他就会考虑挑起战争是否有意义了。
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 假行僧
如果有意义,他也会降低武器对环境的污染 和 慎用武器。不过对方不会缩手缩脚,怎么厉害怎么来。
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 假行僧
你说的这个 人类社会运行的常识 是什么?
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 假行僧
>> 你没有人类社会运行的常识,不会是个AI吧


你确定我说的这个没用?你确定各国无法达成这个共识?
SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户 回复 假行僧
>> 跟碳税一样掩耳盗铃,该排放的照样排放,并没有让武器变得绿色环保


而且我怎么没看见你说的你给我的一票?0票啊 没有啊!
假行僧 回复 SunnySunday 🤬不友善用户
>> 而且我怎么没看见你说的你给我的一票?0票啊 没有啊!


作为年度最佳笑话的一票,不是作为正经讨论的一票
你的发言天真得别具一格,外(此处指外星)宾味儿很浓

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