现在的中国为什么没有右翼学生运动?

鄙人自认为是坚定的英美式的保守主义者,这几年看到了许多左翼学生运动,从要求休假到为其他相对弱势群体发声,令人感叹他们能在这个世代还有发声的机会,但那些右翼学生在哪呢?大学里的自由派和右派份子都已经销声匿迹或者沉默了?还是因为右翼群体难以寻找和组织起来吗?难道中国的右翼真如你姨说的那么费拉嘛?以及为什么左翼学生们不把矛头指向中共?求解
你自己其实已经给自己做出解释了。国际意义上的右翼的所有诉求都和国家主权,经济分配,社会结构等统治核心问题有关,他们没有办法旁敲侧击,除了武装起来干翻统治者,固然洼地武德相对是欠缺的,但客观的说当前早已原子化多年的社会不具有这样的条件。

然后就到你第二个问题,为啥左翼都会忽视房间里的大象。因为不得不忽视,不得不自我欺骗,他们必须假装中共是一个成熟的现代化社会,否则他们所有的运动都会被坦克碾成齑粉。这也导致他们的所有诉求都是空中楼阁,因为连基本的人权也没有,谈何女权,同性权,动物权?只是官老爷一时施舍了一点灰色空间,一旦进入总体战或者封闭阶段,马上打回原形。
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有能力有头脑的人不是移民海外就是进入体制内,人嘛趋利避害,这帮人只要还有上升通道或者有其他出路,谁会真的为了普通百姓去和中共死磕。别说国人那些国外的白左精英不也一样的德性,至今不忘与中共勾勾搭搭捞好处。
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中国语境下的右翼学生运动要有的话不就是皇汉,皇汉这东西在中国比左翼还费拉,怎么可能组织有效的运动
決不再做奴隸 ♩黎明來到 要光復 這香港 同行兒女 為正義 時代革命 祈求 民主與自由 萬世都不朽
中共國的青年法輪功學員、青年基督教徒、青年穆斯林發動的群體性事件還是很多的,祗是中共對於這種勢力的打擊特別凶狠、特別殘酷,一般抓到就是把你關進拘留所打到殘廢,甚至進集中營被活摘器官。

There are in fact quite a number of protests that are organized by young Falun Gong practitioners, young Christians, and young Muslims in the People's Republic of China. However, the CCP cracks down these people especially mercilessly and with unusual cruelty. If you are caught as a young Falun Gong practitioner, a young Christian, or a young Muslim, then they will likely fracture your bones in a detention facility, or even harvest your organs in a concentration camp.

其他一些派別的大學生是中共的統戰對象,統戰了以後可以為「四個現代化」做貢獻,因此中共鎮壓起來不會特別狠。但是,法輪功、基督徒、穆斯林往往不是中共的統戰對象,而是中共決不姑息手軟想要消滅的群體,因此中共鎮壓起來不會留情。

Some other political factions in the PRC can be absorbed into the CCP's United Front, and contribute to the CCP's goal of "Four Modernizations." Therefore, CCP might be merciful when it comes to suppressing these factions. However, Falun Gong practitioners, Christians, and Muslims usually cannot be absorbed into the United Front, and are targeted by the CCP's extermination order. For these reasons, the crackdown on the right wing can be especially merciless.

而且右派不像別的派別,可以靠理想主義煽動一大批外圍的費拉大學生做炮灰。比如說,地下基督教會的大學生,一般是地下武裝的事工長官、連隊神父、軍團牧師一類的人,相當於中共軍隊的政治主官,一旦被抓相當於「丟象」、「丟后」,後果特別嚴重。

Also, the right is not like some other factions which can recruit a large group of college educated fellahin to serve in the frontline of the protest like cannon fodder. For example, the college educated members of underground Christian churches are usually serving as the ministers, priests, or bishops of the church militia. These are like the commissars of the CCP's armed forces. If one is caught, it could be like losing a bishop or a queen in chess, leading to devastating outcomes.

因此,右派如果叛亂,一般是依靠河南那種大批農村教民做主力,由退役軍人做軍事顧問,事先演練。如果OF-2(相當於上尉)或者更高軍銜的軍事主官、政治主官進入前線,最好有勇武派精銳戰鬥人員保護。

Therefore, if the right has to stage a protest, it would typically rely on the Christian farmers from a heavily Christian region like Henan. These farmers would be trained for phalange-like tactics by a military advisor who has officially retired from the military. If any OF-2 (Captain) or higher-ranked officers of the militia have to be present, it is the best to protect them with elite security details.

右派叛亂一般是為了達成某種現實目的,比如說「借刀殺人」、「調虎離山」一類的計謀,謀求創造一個對自身教派更友好的中共官僚環境。在中共國,右派叛亂的目的一般不是為了搞出一個大新聞(publicity stunt),然後依靠公眾輿論的壓力使中共修改黨國的相關規定、增強執法,實現社會改良。

In the Mainland PRC, when the right stages a protest, it would be to follow a strategy like "surgical elimination of a hostile combatant with a borrowed knife" or "moving a primary threat away from a vulnerable position." Such might create less hostile environs with more compromised local CCP bureaucracy. In the PRC, the right usually does not protect to create a publicity stunt and hoping that the public pressure would force the CCP to change the policy.

另外,縱觀近代各國歷史,理想主義一般是內部生育率低、靠宣傳從外部籠絡人,因此費拉大學生為他們做炮灰是你情我願。而右派一般自身有豐厚的文化資本,將其傳授給大學生的話,大學生就能成為教會提供奉獻、或者子女眾多的家庭成員,甚至成為《射鵰英雄傳》的郭靖那種土豪,身體力行地發展小共同體的價值觀。對於右派來說,最能繼承、發展文化資本的大學生成員,應該保護起來,而不是拿來犧牲。

Furthermore, it has been clear in the history that idealist groups have low birthrates and rely on recruitment to grow. So the gullible college kids, especially those from fellahinic families, are a natural recruit to them. The right, however, has its own cultural capital that can be shared with college students. With faith and family values, these college students would be reliable future tithe-payors and parents. Some may even become organic intellectuals like Guo Jing in the fiction The Legend of the Condor Heroes, who devoted his life to enrich the values and beliefs of his citizen's collectivity and fought and died for them. To the right, these suitable carriers of cultural capital should be protected, not sent to the frontline so liberally.

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(圖片來源:Kung Kao Po)

當然最後還有一個原因,就是黎巴嫩現象:馬龍天主教右派不是人口少,也不是生育率低,而是移民去歐美的比例太高。

Finally, there is one last reason which is the Lebanon phenomenon. It's not like the Maronite Catholics don't have a high birthrate or are too few in number, but too many of them are emigrating to Europe and the Americas.

中国语境下的右翼学生运动要有的话不就是皇汉,皇汉这东西在中国比左翼还费拉,怎么可能组织有效的运动

Translation: When it comes to the talks in Chinese, the only right-wing student movement is Han nationalism. The Han nationalists are more fellahinic than the leftist. How can they organize anything effective at all?


皇漢是民族主義左派,不是右派。民族有它們天然的邊界。這種邊界往往是由語言區、方言區所定義的。也就是說,一個民族有它天然的理想範圍。

The Han nationalists should be considered as leftists, not rightists. Natural nations have their own boundaries which are defined by the dividing lines of dialects. In other words, nations have their ideal size based on the natural order.

出於政治目的而發明民族,有時會發明得比天然範圍大一些。比如大巴西民族、大鄂圖曼民族、神聖羅馬民族等等。這種「大一統」民族發明出於聯合不同語言、文化、信仰的人群的需要,無論一開始的初衷如何,都會最終轉左。甚至像大德意志民族這樣,依靠右派的容克貴族價值觀構建的民族,由於後來需要團結巴伐利亞的天主教徒、漢堡的資產階級,最後都不免越走越左。

When coming up with a nation to serve political purposes, sometimes the nation would be more encompassing than the natural size. Examples include the Brazilian nation, the Ottoman nation, and the Holy Roman nation. These "grand-unifying" nations, having to unite peoples of differing languages, cultures, and faiths, would journey leftward on the political spectrum over time, regardless of its foundation. Even for the Greater German nation which was built upon the values of Junker nobles, its values journeyed leftward eventually when it tried to bring Bavarian Catholics and Hamburg's bourgeoisie on board.

出於政治目的而發明民族,也有時會發明得比天然範圍小一點。比如瑞士民族、斯洛伐克民族、魁北克民族,甚至香港民族、加泰羅尼亞民族這些。這種「分離主義」的民族發明,由於需要額外增強民族內共同體的強度,避免被同文同種的鄰國「統一」,無論一開始的初衷如何,都會最終轉右。甚至像台灣民主進步黨這樣,以進步主義反對軍人獨裁起家,由於後來為了避免「被統」、為了增強台灣島內的共同體強度,最後都不免越走越右。

When coming up with a nation to serve political purposes, sometimes the nation would be less encompassing than the natural size. Examples include the Swiss nation, the Slovakia nation, the Quebec nation, and even the Hong Kong nation and the Catalonian nation. These "separatist" concepts of nations, having to resist the unification attempts by neighboring peoples, would see its values journey rightward over time. Even for Taiwan's Democratic Progressive Party, which started as a progressive movement to end the authoritarian stratocracy, its values journeyed rightward eventually when it is trying to strengthen the citizens' collectivities in Taiwan towards the goal of Taiwan independence.

皇漢是超越諸夏民族天然邊界的政治性民族發明。它必須依靠「大一統」式的儒教、漢服、普通話、招魂祭祖儀式等來聯合諸夏眾多講方言的天然民族。因此,皇漢除了在家庭觀念、婦女權益這上偏右以外,其他政治議題皇漢都偏左。

Han nationalism was come up to encompass peoples across the dividing lines of dialects. It has to rely on Confucianism, traditional Han clothing, the Mandarin language, ancestral worship, and necromantic magics to bring together these peoples of Cathay. Therefore, besides a few topics like gender roles and women's rights, the Han nationalists are hard left.
昏默 很廢的學院派 · 御宅族 · 中間偏左 · 中國政治宣傳 · 你蔥就是左翼失語啦淦
現在的中國要有右翼運動不就是反日反美......?還有什麼嗎......民族主義已經完全是官方民族主義了
或者是反對打壓阿里之類的......就是不太想象得出來,為什麼會有人幫他說話
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怎么没有,现在不就有很多五毛小粉红哭着喊着要让中国再次伟大aka中华民族的伟大复兴么
NZRdlClr5 嗆聲完了改回來了
小粉紅說要釣魚島什麼的就是了
左理論認為國境什麼的死死光算了,天下大同最好了
所以小粉紅是極右無誤
而且他們是保皇黨,嗯,極右
不要搞错,极权不分左右,极左极右得心应手;相应的极权下各种权利斗争都是左右结合的。
比如民工讨薪,从左的角度是底层平权,从右的角度是要求拿回个人所得。
左和右的基本要求都是活得像个人。只要让普通人活得像个人,就一定会和极权产生矛盾。没有什么权利斗争在极权体制下能单独以左或者右的形态存在。
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原子化,支人組織起來不就反黨反政府了


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我到现在都搞不清楚自己是左还是右,有的时候忽左忽右。

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