歐盟宣布把部分俄羅斯銀行從SWIFT中斷開
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/statement_22_1423
We, the leaders of the European Commission, France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, Canada, and the United States condemn Putin's war of choice and attacks on the sovereign nation and people of Ukraine. We stand with the Ukrainian government and the Ukrainian people in their heroic efforts to resist Russia's invasion. Russia's war represents an assault on fundamental international rules and norms that have prevailed since the Second World War, which we are committed to defending. We will hold Russia to account and collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin.
This past week, alongside our diplomatic efforts and collective work to defend our own borders and to assist the Ukrainian government and people in their fight, we, as well as our other allies and partners around the world, imposed severe measures on key Russian institutions and banks, and on the architects of this war, including Russian President Vladimir Putin.
As Russian forces unleash their assault on Kyiv and other Ukrainian cities, we are resolved to continue imposing costs on Russia that will further isolate Russia from the international financial system and our economies. We will implement these measures within the coming days.
Specifically, we commit to undertake the following measures:
First, we commit to ensuring that selected Russian banks are removed from the SWIFT messaging system. This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally.
Second, we commit to imposing restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions.
Third, we commit to acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine and the harmful activities of the Russian government. Specifically, we commit to taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship—so called golden passports—that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens of our countries and gain access to our financial systems.
Fourth, we commit to launching this coming week a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions. As a part of this effort we are committed to employing sanctions and other financial and enforcement measures on additional Russian officials and elites close to the Russian government, as well as their families, and their enablers to identify and freeze the assets they hold in our jurisdictions. We will also engage other governments and work to detect and disrupt the movement of ill-gotten gains, and to deny these individuals the ability to hide their assets in jurisdictions across the world.
Finally, we will step up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.
We stand with the Ukrainian people in this dark hour. Even beyond the measures we are announcing today, we are prepared to take further measures to hold Russia to account for its attack on Ukraine.
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這次SWIFT最大阻力是德國,義大利 前天傳出消息受到壓力開始轉向,變成"不反對",逐漸達成共識
開了這麼一個口子,個人以為接下來會有更多俄羅斯系統單位會從SWIFT中斷開
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目前有莫斯科酒店要求顧客提前結帳,因為不確定在第一波SWIFT段開後,能否繼續使用信用卡結帳
We, the leaders of the European Commission, France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, Canada, and the United States condemn Putin's war of choice and attacks on the sovereign nation and people of Ukraine. We stand with the Ukrainian government and the Ukrainian people in their heroic efforts to resist Russia's invasion. Russia's war represents an assault on fundamental international rules and norms that have prevailed since the Second World War, which we are committed to defending. We will hold Russia to account and collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin.
This past week, alongside our diplomatic efforts and collective work to defend our own borders and to assist the Ukrainian government and people in their fight, we, as well as our other allies and partners around the world, imposed severe measures on key Russian institutions and banks, and on the architects of this war, including Russian President Vladimir Putin.
As Russian forces unleash their assault on Kyiv and other Ukrainian cities, we are resolved to continue imposing costs on Russia that will further isolate Russia from the international financial system and our economies. We will implement these measures within the coming days.
Specifically, we commit to undertake the following measures:
First, we commit to ensuring that selected Russian banks are removed from the SWIFT messaging system. This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally.
Second, we commit to imposing restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions.
Third, we commit to acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine and the harmful activities of the Russian government. Specifically, we commit to taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship—so called golden passports—that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens of our countries and gain access to our financial systems.
Fourth, we commit to launching this coming week a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions. As a part of this effort we are committed to employing sanctions and other financial and enforcement measures on additional Russian officials and elites close to the Russian government, as well as their families, and their enablers to identify and freeze the assets they hold in our jurisdictions. We will also engage other governments and work to detect and disrupt the movement of ill-gotten gains, and to deny these individuals the ability to hide their assets in jurisdictions across the world.
Finally, we will step up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.
We stand with the Ukrainian people in this dark hour. Even beyond the measures we are announcing today, we are prepared to take further measures to hold Russia to account for its attack on Ukraine.
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這次SWIFT最大阻力是德國,義大利 前天傳出消息受到壓力開始轉向,變成"不反對",逐漸達成共識
開了這麼一個口子,個人以為接下來會有更多俄羅斯系統單位會從SWIFT中斷開
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目前有莫斯科酒店要求顧客提前結帳,因為不確定在第一波SWIFT段開後,能否繼續使用信用卡結帳
40 个评论
估计10年内能看到类似十月革命的变局
已经在粉蛆论坛看见粉蛆开心了,是真巴望着欧美俄同归于尽支那世界霸主
我呸,西方资本主义国家经济制裁爹是无效的,我们孝敬爹的中国韭菜是无限量的!
欧洲这帮老爷真是酒囊饭袋,已经完全忘记了二战一站的伤痛了
笑死,制裁不彻底 不如不制裁。看来德国人也得把普京做爹了
没办法远水近火。和俄罗斯全面翻脸,将俄罗斯逼入绝境欧洲也处境不妙,毕竟就在旁边,战局扩大自己容易受损。
不明白为什么SWIFT这种金融核弹使出的新闻,热度却不是很高?
SWIFT可绝不是限制进口,加税等一系列小儿科,可以说是金融制裁中最顶级的惩罚。
好笑的是,这个消息一出,很多粉蛆开始逼逼些“那我们就用CHIPS”系统,真他妈是弱智——SWIFT是欧洲主导,CHIPS是真正的美元主导,SWIFT用不了就用CHIPS简直是无知到家。
SWIFT是俄罗斯唯一能最终依靠的系统,这次如果被踢出,对于俄罗斯,从军事到民生就是毁灭性的打击,甚至不能用伊朗的4年制裁来做对比,俄罗斯与伊朗的经济结构完全不一样。
对于俄罗斯来说,军事打击恰恰是最不好用的,地广人稀纵深长,只要钱够用,他能陪你一直玩,反倒是经济制裁能让其无处可逃。
设想你被另一帮派追杀,你可以躲可以藏,可以集结小弟打手,可以买武器武装自己,还可以对黑山圣母祷告,所以这些都不可怕,最吓人的是你一觉醒来发觉微信支付宝都不能用了,断粮了还要防被人捅。
SWIFT可绝不是限制进口,加税等一系列小儿科,可以说是金融制裁中最顶级的惩罚。
好笑的是,这个消息一出,很多粉蛆开始逼逼些“那我们就用CHIPS”系统,真他妈是弱智——SWIFT是欧洲主导,CHIPS是真正的美元主导,SWIFT用不了就用CHIPS简直是无知到家。
SWIFT是俄罗斯唯一能最终依靠的系统,这次如果被踢出,对于俄罗斯,从军事到民生就是毁灭性的打击,甚至不能用伊朗的4年制裁来做对比,俄罗斯与伊朗的经济结构完全不一样。
对于俄罗斯来说,军事打击恰恰是最不好用的,地广人稀纵深长,只要钱够用,他能陪你一直玩,反倒是经济制裁能让其无处可逃。
设想你被另一帮派追杀,你可以躲可以藏,可以集结小弟打手,可以买武器武装自己,还可以对黑山圣母祷告,所以这些都不可怕,最吓人的是你一觉醒来发觉微信支付宝都不能用了,断粮了还要防被人捅。
我看新闻好像是说确实是,把俄罗斯踢出swift
俄罗斯自己本身士气低落,我看新闻说、美国有窃听到,前线士兵谈话“我们到底来干嘛?他们看起来跟我们一样”
俄罗斯自己本身士气低落,我看新闻说、美国有窃听到,前线士兵谈话“我们到底来干嘛?他们看起来跟我们一样”
现在美国、英国、欧盟、加拿大等都执行了让俄罗斯与swift脱钩的制裁,不过只是制裁了部分俄罗斯银行(应该是70%),而不是全部,估计是为了保存点弹药,也怕一下子做得太绝让普京狗急跳墙。
不过能做出这一步就很不错了,毕竟之前犹豫不定的德国、意大利、塞浦路斯(这个国家比较亲俄)这样的国家都不太支持这么做。现在看起来自由世界正在就抗俄达成共识,这对普京是个噩耗。
不过能做出这一步就很不错了,毕竟之前犹豫不定的德国、意大利、塞浦路斯(这个国家比较亲俄)这样的国家都不太支持这么做。现在看起来自由世界正在就抗俄达成共识,这对普京是个噩耗。
>> 不明白为什么SWIFT这种金融核弹使出的新闻,热度却不是很高?SWIFT可绝不是限制进口,加税...
五毛早已被洗白,傻傻分不清楚,没救了
>> 我呸,西方资本主义国家经济制裁爹是无效的,我们孝敬爹的中国韭菜是无限量的!
鹅爹最香,鹅爹最in,GO!GO!Go!
部分
>> 因为仅仅是部分银行,而不是全部银行。这种打折扣的制裁毫无价值
这可是70%的银行啊,其中包括最大的10家金融机构,涉及俄罗斯80%以上的银行业总资产,这价值大了。
当年制裁伊朗,只剔除去4家银行,伊朗就少了40%的石油收入,对欧洲的贸易直降了85%。
剩余未被制裁的30%银行,并不意味着俄罗斯的金融流通与结算会借道这30%进行操作,同时制裁也涉及银行的借贷成本,后面紧跟一系列的效应,包括银行倒闭风险增加,政府无法及时获取贷款或贷款成本暴增等,从而导致俄罗斯基础建设停摆,民生相关的资金无法到位,经济彻底崩溃。
制裁开始不到一天,俄罗斯境内对现金的需求已经激增了60倍。这波制裁的影响就目前做个猜测,能把俄罗斯直接送回苏联解体时期,重现中俄边境裘皮大衣换热水瓶塑料脸盆的盛况。
不是热度不高,是很多人不知道踢出swift影响力有多大,反正我是觉得越往后面,影响会逐渐明显,master,visa都用不用了,你说这会不会激发民变,毛子以后经济算是完了
说实话,除了出兵以外,这个惩罚已经相当够力度了,欧洲能做到这一步已经算不错了,习近平看了以后估计短期内不敢动台湾了,踢出SWIFT不是中国经济能承受的了的
>> 这可是70%的银行啊,其中包括最大的10家金融机构,涉及俄罗斯80%以上的银行业总资产,这价值...
评论很多人只顾意气用事,根本没有意识到这金融核弹的威力,部分制裁,然后逼迫俄罗斯妥协,如果俄罗斯继续一意孤行,再用上全部,这是最行之有效的办法,如果俄罗斯人还有一丝理性不想让自己国家变成伊朗的话就趁现在赶紧逼普京停战,对了,小粉红他们说的应该是cips,人民币离岸清算系统
>> 说实话,除了出兵以外,这个惩罚已经相当够力度了,欧洲能做到这一步已经算不错了,习近平看了以后估...
我倒是觉得欧洲的表现让包子更安心了,俄欧在贸易和金融上的关系和中欧根本没的比。就这样欧洲还是如此犹豫。而把中国踢出swift的影响要比俄罗斯大几十倍,
普京开战前不可能不对西方可能的制裁进行推演,包括被提出swift也一定是有预案的,现在就是不知道这次普京的其中一个战略目标是不是打算彻底把中国一起拉下水,08年金融危机的时候普京是跟中国通过气想让中国抛售美债落井下石的,江湖当然清楚这种自杀式行为虽然能把美帝打残,但后果会非常严重,不可能答应的,这次碰到个喜欢算命的“雄主”,就怕脑袋不清楚,以为天将降大任于猪头,拉着整个国家跟他一起去实现春秋大梦,那就真完蛋了
>> 这下俄罗斯士气更低落了,赔了夫人又折兵不是吗?普汀大帝上前线鼓舞一下士气?
目前俄羅斯的國內宣傳政策是降低國內反戰情緒,表現得很低調
像很一些人都說"大帝"有推演經濟制裁過什麼的
但是個人以為 俄羅斯戰爭計畫本身都沒有良好的實行,很難相信大帝會有什麼好的措施去應對經濟制裁的問題,更不要說現在是戰爭每多拖一天那就是離原本計畫偏離一度.
>> 我倒是觉得欧洲的表现让包子更安心了,俄欧在贸易和金融上的关系和中欧根本没的比。就这样欧洲还是如...
欧洲犹豫是正常的,之所以最终通过制裁还是因为乌克兰坚持的久,德国松口支援武器也是这个原因,民主政府扛不住源源不断的民意压力,所以只要台湾坚持的越久,越高级别的制裁和援助就会陆续跟进,很多人觉得欧美软弱,其实不然,制裁是逐步叠加的,俄罗斯上次痛痛快快的拿下克里米亚没受到太严厉的惩罚,然后你看这次就不一样了,中国上次镇压香港就差点被踢出SWIFT,再搞台湾被踢出的几率就成倍加大,更何况台湾还关系到全球的芯片供应,变数更大
彻底内循环起来给包子见识一下
>> 欧洲犹豫是正常的,之所以最终通过制裁还是因为乌克兰坚持的久,德国松口支援武器也是这个原因,民主...
要想把中国踢出,要先做到中欧金融脱钩,贸易脱钩。俄欧脱钩还早于14年,可以追溯到08年。先花个20年确保中欧脱钩了,再谈踢谁的问题
>> 这可是70%的银行啊,其中包括最大的10家金融机构,涉及俄罗斯80%以上的银行业总资产,这价值...希望如此吧。现在我对乌克兰局势还是抱有悲观看法。
>> 我倒是觉得欧洲的表现让包子更安心了,俄欧在贸易和金融上的关系和中欧根本没的比。就这样欧洲还是如...说的对,德国意大利是肯定不会为了台湾对中共动用这种swift手段。而且这种swift制裁只会给包子更多时间去准备应对的策略。
>> 我倒是觉得欧洲的表现让包子更安心了,俄欧在贸易和金融上的关系和中欧根本没的比。就这样欧洲还是如...
但是俄罗斯和墙国也没的比。俄罗斯除了普京本人和核弹是个问题之外,对美国和整个西欧完全不构成威胁,并且俄罗斯的政治体制也没有一个稳定的独裁机制。普京是欧美的敌人,但是俄罗斯并不是,对俄罗斯的容忍并不是不敢对抗,而是损耗太大回报太低。普京只是路上的一条疯狗,耗费巨大代价对付一条疯狗,不是不敢,而是不值,假以时日,俄罗斯的威胁自己就会消亡。
土共就不一样了,政治体制是欧美的威胁,并且有持久的独裁机制,如果战争爆发,就涉及到整个民主自由政治体制的生存问题,这是不同量级的威胁。
如果金融制裁将明确导致严重后果,普丁很有可能选择发动第三次世界大战。
>> 如果金融制裁将明确导致严重后果,普丁很有可能选择发动第三次世界大战。
那也得俄罗斯国内都肯跟他一意孤行才行。看现在基层的兵都没有统一战斗思想,发动世界大战的难度可想而知。
俄罗斯也是有议会的,虽说被普金控制了大部分,但明显的自杀命令,大家就要想想了。
>> 要想把中国踢出,要先做到中欧金融脱钩,贸易脱钩。俄欧脱钩还早于14年,可以追溯到08年。先花个...
太夸张了,欧俄关系一样很紧密,以德国为首的欧盟国家是俄罗斯最大投资来源国,SWIFT制裁对他们自己伤害也很大,这次一样通过了,不过是部分
>> 太夸张了,欧俄关系一样很紧密,以德国为首的欧盟国家是俄罗斯最大投资来源国,SWIFT制裁对他们...
一点也不夸张,首先中欧贸易数倍于俄欧贸易,第2俄欧贸易主要是能源,相对比较简单,而中欧贸易五花八门,内容要复杂很多。另外双边投资,融资,债务等一些金融合作上俄欧和中欧压根就不是一个级别,另外这次为什么只制裁部分俄罗斯银行?不就是要给德国面子吗?因为德国不能离了俄罗斯天然气。德国有多依赖中国那还说吗?像德意志银行那都是中国政府认可的境外合作券商,这关系不是一般的紧密
>> 一点也不夸张,首先中欧贸易数倍于俄欧贸易,第2俄欧贸易主要是能源,相对比较简单,而中欧贸易五花...
中资银行如果不是怕被踢出SWIFT就不会让香港特首林郑月娥委屈去用现金了,中国去年吓的紧急取消香港反制裁法也是同一个原因,中欧贸易也就是俄欧贸易的三倍多而已,所以我跟你说对中国也就是部分制裁,然后附加百分之多少占比的高科技商品禁运,和其他一些东西,办法总比问题多,难道您觉得欧美会什么都不做?